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  • Started 1 year ago by BrigidKeely
  • Latest reply from maecrab
  1. Obama will be on par with Bush when he starts a totally pointless war with the wrong country, claims God told him to do it, runs the economy into a brick wall, tries to fuck with Roe v. Wade, makes everyone hate goddamn France and then, to top it all off, manages to fuck up Britain's political scene too.

    I don't know what he'd have to do to be worse than Bush. Eat babies, possibly?

    Sure, he wasn't the second coming of left-wing Christ, and sure, the USA didn't turn into a socialist paradise overnight, but god damn it, saying that he's worse than Bush is like saying the current government of Germany are Nazis.

    Flee thee, icy Lucifer.
    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Wait, are you telling me Obama's a centrist?

    HOLY SHIT I HAD NO IDEA.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. fishcake
    Member

    I'm going to have to reiterate this: is this REALLY how you Americans conduct your politics? I have to admit that i'm sheltered as fuck but jeez, the only Canadians i've seen up here that act this vitrolic to someone they've never met are the campus Maoists. Even the democratic socialist NDPers try to maintain a pretense of polite decorum when debating.

    Then again, this may probably be bad for where I live. I mean, the first time I excersized my right to free speech (I put up a poster demanding a place to skate that wasn't in the middle of the highway) the entire neighbourhood gave me the "don't rock the boat" look, and even now i'm considered the "town radical".

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. And for the record, the "electoral recourse" option doesn't really work in a province so saturated with generations-old allegiances to political parties and clientalism. It DOES happen from time to time, but something BIG needs to go down like the Premier raping a baby live on the CBC.

    Fair enough.

    For the record, as a dirty foreigner, I much, much prefer the guy who's breaking NAFTA and writing "buy American" bills in an effort to cripple our economy than the guy who tried to threaten and cajole our country into a war that was essentially a family vendetta. Being a small insignificant country is only half the reason Canada has never yet had a successful Islamist terrorist attack. Not going to war in Iraq is the other half.

    I'm not going to tell you who I vote for, because I never know for sure until an election hits. I like to keep my options open.

    Jonathon Dalton
    A Mad Tea-Party
    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. i'm getting the feeling from the tone of your posts that everyone here who supports Obama should feel totally ashamed

    No, just people who claim that the current healthcare bill and everything else Obama's done to us isn't happening because he's "our man"/some chart on the internet said so/I hate leftists. I haven't said a single thing about anyone's politics, we're not even at a point where I could if I wanted to, what I'm trying to make a point about is dishonesty, plain and simple. It's more than a little revolting to post a rundown of the healthcare plan and an assessment of what it means and all that comes back is some dude throwing fantasy rightwing boogeyman stereotypes of the picket-waving Nader-humping Mumia-freeing campus commie stoner at me because... I guess I said exactly what you already knew but in a mean way? Obamachart.com has a number that indicates he is a good guy and therefore above reproach? Who knows. Nobody else has actually made an assertion or posted anything but insinuations about my degenerate character and obvious spin yet so who could know?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. I'm just enjoying having a president that the rest of the world doesn't think is a total moron at the moment.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. fishcake
    Member

    Okay fine fine jeeeeez
    No need to get angry
    I mean this is the internet right?
    The last thing we want is drama

    Posted 1 year ago #
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  9. fishcake
    Member


    P.S. Hey BrigidK, I have to admit: you were pretty much right about everything you said about funding Bus Lines whether they were profit takers or money holes
    I love how our city can magically find money for bus routes to far-off neighbourhoods in the middle of fucking nowhere when closer neighbourhoods get diddly squat

    Posted 1 year ago #

  10. P.S. Hey BrigidK, I have to admit: you were pretty much right about everything you said about funding Bus Lines whether they were profit takers or money holes
    I love how our city can magically find money for bus routes to far-off neighbourhoods in the middle of fucking nowhere when closer neighbourhoods get diddly squat

    Residents of neighborhoods in the middle of fucking nowhere still need to get around. And as irritating as it is, people closer to a central area tend to have multiple ways of getting around and can stand to have cuts. Whereas people further away, if their service is cut, are no longer able to get to work/school/the store/etc. Where I live right now, There's 3 different buses and a train, all of which can drop me off within 3 blocks of the same spot downtown. They take different routes to get there, and I take different buses based on what else I need to do that day, but to get from my apartment to downtown, I'm kind of spoiled for choice. Whereas people who live out where my dentist is? One bus. That's it. No train lines.

    OF COURSE the problem with this is that bus lines that serve closer to the city center tend to be more crowded, so when you start cutting service to those bus lines you wind up with buses so packed that people are unable to get on, which DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. You can't make money from customers you can't serve, right?

    In my magical happy world where unicorns fart rainbows and gold coins and chocolate cake fall from the sky into my pockets, the government doesn't waste its money and so doesn't have budgetary holes and short falls every year. The government applies that money to public transit and ensures that ALL neighborhoods are adequately served by public transit AND that it's as ADA compliant as possible (it's extremely hard for me to take the train if I have a stroller, and I can fold that stroller up and haul it. God forbid someone around here in a wheelchair wants to take the train. They'll have to take the bus several miles out of the way to be able to reach an ADA accessible station.). This, in theory, gets the buses and trains moving regularly and on time and also funds them so they are appropriately staffed which cuts down on muggings, public masturbation, verbal assault, and general asshattery that goes hand in hand with public transit as well as supplies enough staff to actually CLEAN the train stations, elevators, inside of buses, etc. THIS, in THEORY, gets more people riding public transit and eases the traffic congestion and parking issues the city has, as well as saving money and time for the people coming from out of the city (or heading out of the city).

    As it stands, it takes me 2-3 hours to make a 5 mile round trip, and that's when the bus does NOT break down, or stop and stand for 15-30 minutes while we wait for the cops to come and escort off the bus someone who lost his shit.

    Posted 1 year ago #

  11. As it stands, it takes me 2-3 hours to make a 5 mile round trip, and that's when the bus does NOT break down, or stop and stand for 15-30 minutes while we wait for the cops to come and escort off the bus someone who lost his shit.

    You should convince Nikola to use his electrical powers to assist you.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. Man, I feel so damn grateful to live in Europe now.

    Even though the Irish public transport system has many, many shortcomings, including the fact that the trams are run by contractors and the tickets cost a goddamn arm and a leg.

    And speaking of Europe: oh, Ireland, you rascal, you just criminalised blasphemy! Goody, now it's even easier to pretend that this is the the nineteen-goddamn-thirties and I'm about to get a visit from the black/brown/blueshirts for being a poncey intellectual.

    I don't know how to feel about this (aside from "terrified"). I suspect they're doing this so no more nasty little abuse scandals get out, since that really isn't doing the RCC's image any favours.

    Shit like this almost makes me wish I still lived in Russia.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. LouisatheLast
    Member

    Every European should feel really, really grateful to have excellent public transportation, it is true. But the truth is that in America it is near-impossible to have public transportation that's up to European standards. We're simply too big and too spread out- suburban sprawl and huge distances mean that stops can't be close together enough to make it practical for most people to use, and the fact that not too many use it means that the transport companies can't afford to add more lines and make it more practical. Then there are the distances between towns, particularly in the midwest and the south. Trying to get around Texas is a bit like trying to give Australia a subway system.

    This is not to say we shouldn't try. Just that there's not much hope of seeing a European-style public transportation system outside of very dense cities.

    And...seriously? Ireland outlawed blasphemy? Wow.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. fishcake
    Member

    Residents of neighborhoods in the middle of fucking nowhere still need to get around. And as irritating as it is, people closer to a central area tend to have multiple ways of getting around and can stand to have cuts.

    But that's the point - I don't even get anything! Since the entire Metro area of St. John's has a grand total of 200000 people, the only type of public transit we can get is the bus. The nearest bus stop is more than 5km away, and yet the town will send a bus winding through 10 clicks of deserted farmland simply because they lie within the town bouandries and thus the municipal government needs to keep them happy in order to keep them voting for the incumbents. Meanwhile, neigbourhoods like my own don't even get to see a bus stop because we lie outside town boundaries!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. [quote]Residents of neighborhoods in the middle of fucking nowhere still need to get around. And as irritating as it is, people closer to a central area tend to have multiple ways of getting around and can stand to have cuts.

    But that's the point - I don't even get anything! Since the entire Metro area of St. John's has a grand total of 200000 people, the only type of public transit we can get is the bus. The nearest bus stop is more than 5km away, and yet the town will send a bus winding through 10 clicks of deserted farmland simply because they lie within the town bouandries and thus the municipal government needs to keep them happy in order to keep them voting for the incumbents. Meanwhile, neigbourhoods like my own don't even get to see a bus stop because we lie outside town boundaries![/quote]

    Bah, that's some whack ass shit.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. AngryRobotsInc
    Member


    And speaking of Europe: oh, Ireland, you rascal, you just criminalised blasphemy! Goody, now it's even easier to pretend that this is the the nineteen-goddamn-thirties and I'm about to get a visit from the black/brown/blueshirts for being a poncey intellectual.

    From what an Irish lady on another forum I'm on said, it was already illegal. What was actually being done was lessening the possible fines for it by 75%. Mainly because their libel laws fall under the same, and that's what it was actually about, rather than blasphemy. Also, even while it's been illegal forever, it's one of those old laws found just about everywhere (not necessarily blasphemy) that no one really ever actually gets charged with.

    ETA: The reason it didn't get changed outright to just libel with the lessened fines, is because it's easier to change the punishment for a law, than to rewrite it.

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  17. fishcake
    Member

    Bah, that's some whack ass shit.

    I console myself by reminding myself that we get better snow cleaning. It's not much of a consolation.

    Also, from what I can discern from your previous posts, you seem to have been in the same boat that i'm going to be in pretty soon: farm boy/girl that grew up in a farming community, and later moved to the big city for whatever reasons. If I do happen to be on the mark here, would you mind filling me in on what the transition was like? Looking at my Uni transcript, i'm predicting that I might have to go to another university for more detailed studies within a year, and i'd like to move to a place where you don't have to sit through an half-hour drive just to see building with more than two stories.

    Also, I thought Ireland stopped clinging to it's collective rosary around the sixties. Way to totally blow your international image as a shining beacon of European progressivism.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. From what an Irish lady on another forum I'm on said, it was already illegal. What was actually being done was lessening the possible fines for it by 75%. Mainly because their libel laws fall under the same, and that's what it was actually about, rather than blasphemy. Also, even while it's been illegal forever, it's one of those old laws found just about everywhere (not necessarily blasphemy) that no one really ever actually gets charged with.

    From what I understand, they lessened the fines for the already existing laws and introduced a new crime: blasphemous libel. Blasphemy was illegal, blasphemous libel was not a definition of anything.

    Relevant article.

    The Defamation Bill, which also introduces a new crime of blasphemous libel, will come into operation after it is passed by the Seanad later this week and signed into law by President Mary McAleese.

    So yeah, it is as bad as it looks. What's worse, nobody major seems to be opposing it. What is this, Iran?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. So... explain "blasphemous libel", as distinct from vanilla blasphemy. Is that when you call God a pedophile, or what?

    Haven't read up on it in detail, but the bill sounds like it's a big compromise bill mainly aimed at protecting Irish citizens and papers from the batshit wacky libel codes of their neighbors a short swim away. The Brits have been getting a rep for prosecuting bullshit libel offenses in America over stuff that barely even touches British shores, I can only imagine what kind of chilling effect they've had on Irish journalism. The ability to issue a retraction without it being regarded as admission of guilt could potentially defuse a huge number of speculative libel suits exported to prosecutor-friendly British courts. The blasphemy thing, last I read on it, similarly struck me as more of feelgood legislation for all the angry Catholic grannies than the heavy hand of theocracy settling on a nation. Britain and I believe France had similar laws until just recently (e: whoa really recently) it's not like this is a new thing in Europe.

    Blasphemy laws are crap but if I'm reading the effect of the actual legislation right I'd far rather have that in my own legal system than be subject to having to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt anything nasty I say about anyone sufficiently wealthy and sadistic before a foreign kangaroo court.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. What worries me is that they'll use this to silence reports of clergical abuse.

    And just because it's not a new thing doesn't mean it isn't completely fucking ridiculous and backwards.

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  21. Depends on the wording, doesn't it? I haven't found it after a cursory search, but the snippets that keep getting repeated in the Irish papers it seems substantially similar to an ordinary libel charge, only specific to religious institutions and carrying higher penalties. Or it could mean you can't say anything about the baby-eating cult next door or you might hurt their feelings, "grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion" doesn't really say much. There's a lot of screaming about it on the blogs but for all the sound and fury and hypotheticals where this forces everyone to convert to Islam because Muslims are offended by infidels, etc., nobody actually seems to be very clear on what the law says. The dude who introduced it doesn't even give a fuck, and while I don't believe it's the procedural thing he makes it out to be he ain't exactly crusading either. Which is kinda the first warning that the particulars aren't actually offensive, it's just got a scary title.

    I agree it's bullshit but it seems like that aspect, at least, is possibly meaningless bullshit.

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  22. Considering the church's stranglehold on Ireland, I really doubt it's meaningless bullshit.

    We're talking about a place where the Constitution was written with bishops, not lawyers or judges or politicians, serving as consultants.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. [quote]Bah, that's some whack ass shit.

    I console myself by reminding myself that we get better snow cleaning. It's not much of a consolation.
    Also, from what I can discern from your previous posts, you seem to have been in the same boat that i'm going to be in pretty soon: farm boy/girl that grew up in a farming community, and later moved to the big city for whatever reasons. If I do happen to be on the mark here, would you mind filling me in on what the transition was like? Looking at my Uni transcript, i'm predicting that I might have to go to another university for more detailed studies within a year, and i'd like to move to a place where you don't have to sit through an half-hour drive just to see building with more than two stories.
    Also, I thought Ireland stopped clinging to it's collective rosary around the sixties. Way to totally blow your international image as a shining beacon of European progressivism.[/quote]

    Feel free to email me at brigidkeely at gmail.com. I didn't grow up on a farm, but I was surrounded by them and by forest preserve, one of my first jobs was mucking out horse stalls, and almost everyone in my neighborhood was Hispanic while everyone in the incorporated part of the town was white. It was very segregated. The high school I went to was private and slightly ethnically diverse so moving to the city wasn't THAT big of a culture shock, but holy fuck, I have seen the people who stayed down there and it's scary. It's like they fossilize.

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  24. This has been floating around the intratubes for awhile, and I just wanted to point out that I'm pretty sure it's a parody of an advertising bit:


    A man wakes up in the morning after sleeping on an advertised mattress, under an advertised blanket, in advertised pajamas. He will bathe in an advertised shower, wash with advertised soap, shave with an advertised razor, drink advertised coffee after his advertised juice and put on advertised clothes and accessories. He will ride to work in an advertised car, sit at an advertised workstation, utilize an advertised computer and write with an advertised pen. Yet this man hesitates to advertise Saying advertising doesn’t pay. Finally, when his unadvertised business goes under, he will then advertise it for sale.

    This is one of the first hits I got for it. It's an updated version (advertised computer? really? there's unadvertised computers? Well, I guess ones you put together yourself...) of a space filler that used to appear in ad space that hadn't been sold in my Church's bulletin and my crappy town's crappy newspaper.

    I just thought that was interesting.

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  25. Town Hall meetings are seriously classy events.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  26. fishcake
    Member

    For the last two or three elections, all but one of the councillers in my community have had their seats acclaimed. This year, with a spate of councillers retiring and with only one dude so far filing as a candidate there's probably going to be a few vacancies on council; the deadline is tomorrow, and if I were to file i'd probably be guaranteed a seat. There's a whole lot of issues and ideas that i'd like to see brought about in my little suburban town (slow down suburban sprawl, institute a 5 cent plastic bag tax, push for a metrowide greenbelt) so it's not like i'd spend my term playing halo while I slowly turn into a joke.

    I've never been more tempted to put my life on a semi-hold than now. I probably won't do it, though. Cause, y'know, I suck at bullshit like this.

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  28. I just want to point out that recent trips to the DMV for me (Chicago) have been incredibly quick trips filled with very helpful people. DMV procedures were revamped a few years ago to make a much more streamlined process--- at least in Chicago.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. The NJ DMV (Cherry Hill office, anyway)isn't that bad either, most of the time. If you get there before 9 am you will likely be out in under 45 minutes for just about anything. That's pretty good compared to a decade ago.

    So, I have a comic. Some people think it's almost good.
    http://tinyurl.com/tarnation
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  30. "Why isn't Ted Kennedy going to Canada for Health Care?"

    1. Because Canadian health care isn't free for foreigners, duh. Otherwise we'd be FLOODED with American cross-border sickies. You have to live here for three months before you can jump on the free health care bandwagon. Then you have to pay extra fees for a year. I know because I had to do this once after living elsewhere for a year and a half. And I'm a citizen.

    2. Because he has perfectly good government-funded health care already. As all senators do, I'm sure. You don't think they'd get into office and then not have some sort of health insurance plan, do you? Who do you think pays for it?

    3. Because he's dead. American health care couldn't save him (not that Canadian could have either- nobody could).

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